Erin Moore: Trusting the Process

At 17 Erin Moore signed two acceptance letters to college and asked her father to mail one of them.  She couldn't decide.  One was for for Law School at UNC, the other  for dance at  Fordham/Ailey.  Join me in this fascinating conversation with the marvelous Erin Moore about her journey from law school to Broadway and her willingness to trust the process and follow where the bread crumbs lead.

Erin Moore is a versatile artist, performing across genres and mediums. She earned her BFA at Fordham/Ailey, joined Philadanco and toured the U.S. and abroad, performing and modern and contemporary ballet repertory. She has appeared on  HBO’s Boardwalk Empire (recurring), Netflix’s A Very Murray Christmas, and appearances on The Tonight Show and Saturday Night Live, including with Kanye West. Theatrically, she was in the original Broadway casts of: the revival of Follies, starring Bernadette Peters, the Tony award winning After Midnight, and Shuffle Along choreographed by Savion Glover. In the classical realm, Erin was in the company of Rigoletto at The Metropolitan Opera and was featured with the San Francisco Symphony in a role conceived for her by choreographer Pat Birch and maestro Michael Tilson Thomas. Most recently she can be seen in the finale of Fosse/Verdon on FX and in season 3 of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel on Amazon. On the big screen she portrayed Michelle of Destiny’s Child in Ang Lee’s feature film, Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk. 

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Transcript

Erin Moore: 0:23

This is the stop time podcast. I'm your host, Lisa Hopkins, and I'm here to engage you in thought provoking motivational conversations around practicing the art of living in the moment. I'm a certified life coach, and I'm excited to dig deep and offer insights into embracing who we are and where we are at. My next guest is a versatile artist performing across genres and mediums after earning her BFA at Fordham Ailey, she joined phila Danko and toured the US and abroad, performing modern and contemporary ballet repertory. After Philadelphia, she returned to New York and has appeared on television and HBO his Boardwalk Empire. Netflix a very Merry Very Merry Christmas. The Tonight Show and Saturday Night Live with Kanye West on the big screen. She portrayed Michelle of Destiny's Child in onlys feature film, Billy Lynn's long halftime walk. She's also appeared on Broadway in the revival of follies starring Bernadette Peters, the Tony Award winning after midnight and Shuffle Along in the classical realm. She was in the company of Rigoletto at the Metropolitan Opera and was featured with San Francisco Symphony in a roll conceived for her by choreographer Pat Burch and Maestro Michael Tilson Thomas. Most recently, she can be seen in the finale of Fossey Verdun on FX and in season three of the marvelous Mrs. nasal. It is with great pleasure that I introduce you to the wonderful Aaron Moore. Aaron. Welcome. Thanks, Lisa. Talk about an exciting and diverse ride so far, right? It has been it really has been I'm appreciative that,yeah.

Lisa Hopkins: 2:09

Is it true that you were planning on being a lawyer?

Erin Moore: 2:12

It is true. I was. So I was in school at University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, I was not dancing. My plan was to go to law school. I followed up, you know, a friend from high school to Perry Mansfield summer after my freshman year and was like, This is missing from my life. And with all of the encouragement and all of this sort of why are you not dancing from all of you? I took the leap and transferred to Fordham Bailey. And that's the short story of that's all she wrote. It was not easy. But that's what happened. Yeah. Talk to me about like, what wasn't easy about it? Because that's really interesting, because that's a massive decision. Massive, massive life decision. Yeah, that's what was hard about it.

Unknown: 2:58

So the funny part about the story is that I signed both acceptance letters in high school, went to UNC Chapel Hill and went to Fordham, and I was so conflicted then, that I went away to I think, ballet festival in Minneapolis. And I gave those letters, both letters to my dad, I was like, send one and he sent the one to UNC. So that's how I ended up there. But um, so yeah, it was a big decision. I just did not, I wasn't sure that I could do it professionally. Like, I didn't know what that looks like, there was no one there was no one who had who was like, before me that had done it. No path. And I wasn't super confident. Like, I just didn't know what it looks like. So I was like, something's missing. I don't want to be 30 years old and think what if I could have done it? So that was the turning point. For me that thought of feeling like what if I could have done it, but I didn't try?

Lisa Hopkins: 3:47

Yeah. Oh, yeah. What do you think might have been different? Had you chosen the other path?

Erin Moore: 3:53

Oh, my God, Lisa, I can't even imagine. I mean, I feel like it's one of the best decisions I made in my life to leave. And I was having so much fun there. I have friends, I was enjoying the courses I was taking. But, you know, like, I think I tried to fight the I'm an artist, like I think I thought like, I'm going to dance and get it out of my system. And, you know, I still thought I was going to go back to law school. But, you know, I mean, there are other parts of who I am. But this is definitely an essential part of who I am. Like, I'm an artist, like, I'm a creative person. I am a performer. And I cannot imagine my life otherwise. I can't imagine not having done this. So yeah, I don't even know. I feel like I would be I don't know, I don't know who I would be or how I would be bored. Probably.

Lisa Hopkins: 4:46

It's it's so fascinating to me, because, you know, I'm sure there must have been a million outside influences and voices in your head about weighing in about what you should do.

Erin Moore: 4:59

Yeah, for sure. I think the biggest pressure was like social pressure and internal pressure. My parents were like, do whatever you want. My parents have always been really affirming of who I am and all the weird phases I went through, but I went to a school that was like a prep school and it was like you go Ivy or you go liberal arts college or you go like one of the big state schools and to go to art school was Like, not even a thought it was like strange, and my college counselors didn't know what to do with me, I don't blame them. But I think I have that pressure because I sort of internalized that value system to a degree, like, you know, if that makes sense. Um, yeah, tell me more about that. That's really interesting. What do you mean? Um, so I think that I placed a lot of importance in excelling in a certain very, like, academic way, because of the environment that I was in, I love my high school, I'm glad that I went there got the education that I got, um, but it was very narrow in terms of what success look like. So I was like, you know, your, your, your culture ated, I guess so to speak in the environment that you're in. So I was like, a little bit, in addition to not knowing that I could do it and knowing what it looks like, I was very, like, in that environment lists of like, what, who got into what college and I wasn't drinking the Kool Aid 200%. But I was, you know, I, you're, you're in an environment you're in. So in my head, I was like, Well, does that negate my like, being a dancer? Like, where does that fit with? Like, my intellectual side and my academic side? And like, I just wasn't in an environment that was that, like, it made sense to like, go to conservatory after? Yeah, no, no, it makes perfect sense. And what the what stands out to me, as really a strength of yours is, despite your upbringing, which which, you know, was clearly you know, you were afforded a very good education and all of that, and like you said, no blame or whatever. I mean, that's just the world and the track that you've attracted to. And yet, you had, clearly it sounds like this, this feeling inside? That dance was such a part of you. You just didn't equate the two. Totally, that's exactly what it was. And yet, so you did it. Yeah, you're really fascinating person from the point of view of your career is I mean, 100% in the arts and 100%, you know, emanates from, from your, you know, from your passion as a dancer number one. But it's unbelievable, like when I was reading that, you know, and it's not like work, how many credits you've got, or whatever, but rather, the diversity, talk to me about you know, because you bet you have basically covered all the realms. What was the hardest thing? Like, what kind of fears did you have to overcome when you were moving around? Or did you just go for it? I'm just so curious. I have the ignorance of bliss. I have the bliss of ignorance, rather. I started at Philadanco. And like that was my dream was to be in a dance company, like a modern dance company. And then when I came, I was like, I want to go back to me or I can do theater, because I had done theater growing up as a kid. You know, I took a lot of risk. I was like, pushy, but in a nice way. But I kind of just like, follow the breadcrumbs, if that makes sense. So my friend, I was talking to him and I was like, Oh, you know, I knew that getting an agent at that time was like, sort of like, a new new terrain. And I knew that you could do like commercial work if you got an agent. So I was talking to a friend one night and we had been done Danco together. And I was like, oh, MSA is having auditions. But I haven't submitted my headshot and resume and, you know, you have to do that to be able to get an appointment. He said, Call them and ask if he can come. So I called him on a Friday night. Was it a Friday or like a Thursday, maybe. And it was at the end of the day, and I said, Hi, my name is Erin. And I want to come to your audition. And I haven't submitted and they said what, you know, tell me about your background. And I told him about my background and just to Danko I did. And he said great. You're just what we're looking for comes tomorrow.

Lisa Hopkins: 8:58

Wow.

Erin Moore: 8:59

A lot of stories like that early in my career where I would literally just ask or like show up places, which I'm not recommending necessarily but so once I got the agent, they started submitting me on these like, jobs for commercials or like industrials or like TV film stuff like boardwalk. And so like that was my portal into that world just by getting an agent. Mm hmm. Yeah. No, that makes sense. And it sounds like the momentum built and then you know, even though you went in, I love how you said, you know, you just follow the breadcrumbs but also that's like trusting the process, right? You're not sure where they're gonna lead. But you also weren't running from anything, either anymore. You were in it. But yeah, I'm super open. Yeah, I just, I guess it is trusting the process. I never thought of it like that.

Lisa Hopkins: 9:44

Was there any fear? Or was it It sounds to me like it was truly trusting the process actually, from my from my point of view, but but I'm so curious to know cuz, you know, you had made the leap. You had taken the the route to being an artist. And it seemed to be happening sort of naturally for you. And it sounds like just inherently intuitively, you just went with it. Right. Is that?Am I hearing that correctly?

Erin Moore: 10:07

Yeah. You mean like deciding to like, go for it? Yeah. To me. It sounds like you were literally just like I'm here and I'm all in and what should I do?

Unknown: 10:16

Funny now that you're asking and I'm thinking about it because I've never like dissected it like this, but like since you're asking them Like, yeah, actually, that is kind of how it was without necessarily realizing it. I think I, this part I know about myself, I'm sort of a like, when I'm in it, the process I'm in the process of, it takes me being beyond it or pass it to like, look back and even smell the roses sometimes. But, so I was just doing it like, I wasn't, it wasn't like that. It wasn't like if I don't, or it was just like, make it work, you know, and sometimes I had early and I had a couple restaurant drop jobs. And I don't know, I was just doing it. I wasn't thinking about if it doesn't, you know, and there was, I remember, there was a point at which like, I was getting frustrated auditioning and stuff. And my boyfriend at the time, I was like, I was like, maybe I'm gonna quit, I've definitely had those doubts, you know, like everybody, and he was like, Alright, well, if you're going to leave and stop now, and this was like, early, at least, like when I first came back to New York, maybe like a year or two it I don't know, a year and not even he goes, you need to do everything in your power. You need to devote like, maybe a year or however much time and do everything you can in your power to like improve upon, like any weaknesses or things that you need to do that can potentially get you to the place you want to get. And he was like, then you can when you stop, you can say you did everything that you could. But unless, unless you do that, then you can't say you fully tried. And I was like, You know what? You're right. I was like, Alright, what do I need to do? You know?

Erin Moore: 11:50

Yeah, yeah. No, it's beautiful. You have such a beautiful energy you always have I mean, I've known you for a long time. You haven't changed at all? I mean, you really haven't. So it's been almost exactly a year since Broadway shut down in 2020. And it affected obviously, all of us so much in different ways. Can you can you share with us how it's affected you? Um, so yeah, I in some ways, I feel this is gonna sound weird. I've had this conversation with friends. But in some ways, I feel lucky that I wasn't in a show. Because I feel like in a show, you have some semblance of, you know, regularity and stability, like, you know, you're going to check every week, and your insurance week is better. And all those shows can always close in anytime. And we know, like, I feel like this moment was more abrupt than any show closing that anyone's experienced so. So there's that, um, on the other hand, you have more stability and cushion in the show. So you know, depends on how you look at it. But I was supposed to write when the shutdown happened, start a workshop for a new show, which I was excited about, because I had done an iteration of the show in 2000, like 14, and I was excited to because it was a workshop. So you get points. You know, like royalty points. And just like I like being in the beginning of processes, like I like process. So and I really enjoyed having done the show in 2014. So I was looking forward to that. And that was happening right in March. So that got canceled. And then I was also supposed to do a movie. I had a fitting like that Friday, when everything got shut down. I postponed it to Monday, and then they were like, obviously, like just kidding. And in between that I was like, supposed to judge on weekends. So that's kind of where I was. I mean, I was definitely affected but I think affected differently than if I had been in a show. Yeah, no, that makes sense. What would you say was the was the biggest challenge that you had to face during this time? Um, well, in the beginning, I tend to joke through things and make everything a joke. So we just kept joking my friend about and I just kept joking about the jobs getting cancelled, like, you know, I was like, well, this guy cancelled that, you know, like, I think just thinking about like, oh, wow, like, this is not just happening for two weeks. Now. This is like indefinitely the indefiniteness of it, I think is has been the biggest challenge. Yeah. No, for sure. The ambiguity, right? Just the total, like, nobody's clear about what's gonna happen and stuff. Yeah, no, that makes sense. I'm so curious to know, just as a dancer, do you remember how it felt physically? Like, how did it How did it express itself when you felt that moment of Oh, wow, this isn't going away for a while. I definitely came out like psycho dancer lady right here came out because, like, I really, you know, we all have different ways of coping, you know, and I think some people's way of coping is to like completely relent. And, you know, just like go with go with it. And my way of coping was like, Okay, these are the things I can control. So I was like, luckily, in this 30 day workout challenge, thank God because left to my own devices, I would not have moved but so like, I was moving every day. I was like, I'm not about to just sit around and eat that again, coping mechanism. I was like, I can control moving my body, what I eat and what I spent, those are the only two, three things that I have control of right now. So I'm going to be like, you know, very deliberate about those things. So that's not exactly answering your question of how it felt physically. But that is, I guess that is a bit like some type of like, I don't, I'm not an anxious person. But I do think that's some type of like, stress response is to like, control, you know? Absolutely. No, absolutely. Because if you think about it, you know, intellectually, you knew that your regular physical regime was going to be taken away from you. And also that, you know, your physical response was going to be to eat too much, which is an emotional response. It's so fascinating, isn't it? I was like, I know, I was like, I know that in this moment. Yeah, that's what I was, I could be inclined to do so I'm gonna do the opposite. I was super, like, I was super like, you know, healthy for maybe a couple months. And you know, that didn't last. It's been a year.

Lisa Hopkins: 16:28

Yeah,

Erin Moore: 16:29

I, you know, I go through phases like I've, I've given into, when I feel like being Slack, on slack. Yeah, we're back together. Like I've, I've realized, like, you know, it's, you can't maintain that, or I can't maintain that. So I let myself do what I need to do. I let myself be how I need to be like, for the last nine days have moved, and I'm fine with it. I'll move tomorrow. No, no, but that's cool. Because you know, you're talking about allowing yourself permission, and doing it by choice, not by default. Yeah, this is a crazy time, you got to just like, let yourself be wherever you are. And that is genuinely where I was in the beginning. So as it has changed, I allow myself to shift with it.

Lisa Hopkins: 17:14

Good for you. Good for you. Is that something new for you to sort of let yourself be lazy?

Erin Moore: 17:20

Um, I would say I usually don't do it for this long. Like for a period. I'm like, oh, my goodness, you know, we're usually just running around. So by default, I'm moving, you know, yeah. Yep. No, absolutely. And like you said, you know, the length of time, you know, we've all made choices. And we've all been through lots of full range of, you know, emotions and feelings and changes, and, you know, actual things changing in our lives and stuff like that, and coping with them. And so, you know, in this sort of global experience, we've all had our individual experiences, obviously, with it. It's been a kind of coping, no matter whether we were doing really well in the coping, we've all been coping for a year. And if you think about coping, as as sort of physically as an idea of like, trying to, to balance negotiate, it's exhausting. Yeah, and so it makes sense that you're just like, no, I really, this is how I feel. And now you recognize it, like, I'm just tired, and you're not going to blame it on anything. You know, there was a time when we might have blamed it on the pandemic and blamed it on this blamed and it's a result of life, right, you are where you are right now. And this is how you feel and that's okay. You know, I think a lot of people and I worry about it, I worry about the people that you know, when things start opening up again, or not allowing the, you know, the the cycle of the emotion to finish to process and they just push it down and then keep moving forward, you know, and it'll come out somewhere else at some point. It's so true, Oh, this time, it's been humbling. I know that I get thrown around, but I'm like, No, really. It has. For me, anyway.

Lisa Hopkins: 19:06

Yeah. Yeah.

Erin Moore: 19:08

No, absolutely. Emotional, specifically, emotionally, just like things that you nothing catastrophic. But just like things that I would normally be too busy or too distracted. That that wouldn't come to the surface. Definitely have had that time. So it's been good, though, because it's like, do you have to deal with it? Yeah. Good for you. Yeah. Are there discoveries you've made about yourself that surprised you? During this time? Yes. Yeah. Huh. I never thought of myself as that creative. Sorry. Yeah. I know, right? I'm like 500 years old, just now discovering this. But yeah, so that's the discovery I've made. I like to create things.

Lisa Hopkins: 19:51

Interesting. Wait, so tell me more about that. So what did you didn't think you were and now you realize that you are?

Erin Moore: 19:58

Yeah, not really like, I mean, I would speak about like the the Oh, like, I would do this to this or I would, but I never thought about those things as like, me being creative. I don't know that's so strange considering what I do. But I guess I always thought of myself as like the practitioner but not the like, creative person. I've always been creative. I just haven't Really like actualized fully or just thought of it in through that legs, I guess?

Lisa Hopkins: 20:29

Yeah. It sounds like yeah, that considered yourself more than the the artists muse, right like that you were there as a conduit for somebody else's art. That's interesting. I see that though I understand that. I mean, it makes perfect sense. So how did you discover? And then therefore redefine creativity and in your life? How did this happen during this time?

Erin Moore: 20:51

I don't know, Li a, I? Well, I do know, I'm tr ing to be opaque. So I had hea t feelings. I had heart feelin s, like heart, you know, love f elings. And one day, I just, I woke up on a Sunday morni g. And I was like, I have to ma e something. And I tell you, Li a, I've never felt this way bef re. I've never been that person ho woke up and was like, I have to make something. I so I did, went to the park and I like s ot something. And I've I have f late or like the past, what f ve years, but I love like da ce on film and moving on fi m and like been very interes ed in that that's not a new de elopment. I just like put it n the back burner. I never felt that like moment of like, I have to get this out. And so I sho something and then edited it go really into the editing and he music and all this. So I s arted just making these videos but it would be like, there as no like, plan or like, it wou d just be when they came to me o when I felt like I needed to ma e it or if there was like a p ece of music that. Like when mu ic resonated with me in a cert in way I'd like I have a sheet like a list of music that, hat I like, want to make stuff t like when it comes to me, I'll ike write it down. So like, tha happened during this period. And that would not have happene. Without this time. I don' think what what was it about this time that has allowed that access to think? Because usually I wouldn't even have the time and space to allow that feeling to like, you know, like come to the surface and be to where you can't distracted away. I had no other outlet, what I realized is like, oh, usually you're just you have an outlet for your creativity. Like, you know, even you know, being the conduit like you said, like being a dancer. Like it's still an outlet for some of that creativity. Yeah, and just whether it's like dressing anyway, I had like no outlet for it. And I realized, oh, like this hasn't come out because it's usually sort of like, distracted away or like, you know, sated by dancing, I guess. And so the moment of stillness, and, you know, a little a little heartbreak, you know, can do some things to you to like, I was like, Oh, the cliche of like, you know, your heart in and then you got to make something. So yeah, that happened.

Lisa Hopkins: 23:10

Wow. Thank you for sharing that. That's it's it is really fascinating. What a gift though, right?

Erin Moore: 23:17

A real gift. I'm like, thank you, that would not have happened before, you know. So I really do appreciate that about this time. Truly. Yeah. That's so interesting. Any other discoveries? Because Wow, that was a fantastic one. Um, I realize how much I say, I like I'm terrible at or have been historically, like, I'm not so great at saying no. Even though I feel like a person who's pretty straightforward. Yeah, so that's been a discovery.

Lisa Hopkins: 23:52

Interesting. And why do you suppose that is? Um,

Erin Moore: 23:56

I think I get like, feel personally attached to other people's feelings sometimes. Hmm. Yeah, I think over the last three or two years, I've been trying to be like more clear about what I want to do next, and like more discerning about like, do you actually want to do this and why and like having like, maybe I have three criteria now that I use that sort to help me determine if I want to do something or not when it's work related, you know, internalizing, saying no, like, just feeling bad about it. I'm an office like we're socialized as women are what are like, but I think is just like, not wanting to let the person asking down when really is that about that? So I feel like I'm getting better at my yeses being yeses in my nose being nose that has happened. That's been a discovery during this time.

Lisa Hopkins: 24:43

Yeah. What is your definition of living in the moment?

Erin Moore: 24:47

Not getting too stressed about the things you can't control?

Lisa Hopkins: 24:50

Hmm. What does it feel like?

Erin Moore: 24:53

Trying to like come back to calm? Yeah. Yeah. Trying, I mean, not always successfully, but trying.

Lisa Hopkins: 25:00

Can you think of a moment when you've achieved it like when you've been quote, unquote, in the moment,

Erin Moore: 25:05

I think this year, this last year, for sure.Never have I've been more in the moment in this last year.

Lisa Hopkins: 25:13

If your life was like an open stage, and you are the writer or the director and the leading lady, what story would you create?

Erin Moore: 25:21

Oh God, I feel so vulnerable, Lisa? Um, this is a vulnerable question. Okay. And I'm going to answer it honestly, it's not specifically. So that would look like me leading and creating something visual, with move it on camera. Is that? Is that specific enough? Or am I being too vague to you tied it immediately to dance, which is beautiful. And I want to give you permission to to take it to the bigger, broader metaphor of life. And the idea that you can create any life that you want to lead. What story would you tell God, I don't, I don't know, this is I feel, I feel stumped in a way that I rarely do. There will be love romantic love in that story, for sure. Um, I would still be in New York City, I would hopefully do be doing something where I could make people feel like I saw them. So I could like make people feel seen and accepted for where they are, and who they are. Those would be kind of like the pillars, but I don't really know how that's like the sketch. I don't know how it looks filled in.

Lisa Hopkins: 26:35

Yeah, that's awesome. Because you, you literally just tied everything to your values to you to what's important to you, right? I mean, yeah. Thank you. No, it's beautiful. I mean, it's so fascinating to me, because you know, you're talking about love. And isn't it interesting that your experience with love is what made you creative? What you just shared with me about feeling creative for the first time. And then it's interesting you talk to me about learning how to say no, and that it was difficult because you cared about the other people. So you put that in your story in the future to in a world where you could where people can be seen. You nailed it. Like it was that was so beautiful. What you did what you just expressed. Yeah. So what inspires erin Moore to get up in the morning?

Erin Moore: 27:22

Coffee? Coffee, you know, I love another thing that's been happening. I love my people. I have some really great people in my life. Yeah. And my family. Yeah. So I guess those things. I mean, I love to work. So work is always great as well. But I would say those are the main things that kind of

Lisa Hopkins: 27:41

what do you know will be true about you, no matter what happens?

Erin Moore: 27:45

I think that as long as I'm healthy, and my family is here and healthy, then I'm good. Hmm. Especially during this time, like, that's been my barometer for wellness, my family's good, I'm good. I still have my full capacity about people around me. Were good. Everything else is icing on the cake. And I've had a lot of icing, admittedly, and I appreciate that, but but those are the things that really matter to me. That make me good, that actually make me good. You know,

Lisa Hopkins: 28:20

that's really beautiful. After you're gone, how do you want to be remembered?

Erin Moore: 28:23

Oh, my God, um, I hope people say she knew how to have fun. She was gonna make fun, make it fun, no matter find fun in it. And I hope people say that she tried to see me for who I was. And that and the last thing I hope people say is that like, she didn't waste her life. She didn't take her life for granted. Those are the things

Lisa Hopkins: 28:48

Do you feel that you are seen the way that you want to see other people?

Erin Moore: 28:54

I don't know. I never really think about it. And you know, there's that part where you're like, you know, you're like, I know, people don't like me, you know, they're they know that there are people who don't know, you know, there's no person who's for every, you know, who's everyone's cup of tea, but I don't really think that much about it, to be honest, how other people see me, I think how things could be perceived. But then I'm just sort of like...

Lisa Hopkins: 29:18

If I'm hearing you correctly, one of your greatest values is to is to emanate from a place where people feel seen, because you you want to be there and you want to be open and you want to be you want to hear them.

Unknown: 29:30

I try to do that I value that. Yes.

Lisa Hopkins: 29:33

Is that a value that it is also important for others to have for you?

Erin Moore: 29:39

So yeah, when you put it like that, yes. When I was younger, one of my big things is like I hated being misinterpreted. And like Miss read, now that with some maturity, I realized that you can't change. You can't dictate our control people's interpretation. So I tried about be clear about you know, I try to be as clear as possible about who I'm being or what I'm saying and then let the chips fall where they may can't control how it's received. But I try to make sure I know what my intention is. Yep. I'm very deliberate. Generally, I'm not I'm very rarely rash, even if I'm being They're very energetic and like, heated or passionate is usually not rash. I'm super deliberate. Thank you for clarifying that. It sounds to me like you. You give unconditionally, meaning you're not expecting something in return. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

Lisa Hopkins: 30:43

that's an incredible quality. Just so you know. Just before we go, before we finish up, I'm gonna ask you, you've probably heard this what makes you and then you're just gonna kind of jump in.

Erin Moore: 30:56

Okay, let's do it. What makes you hungry?

Unknown: 31:00

The day the day?

Lisa Hopkins: 31:02

What makes you sad?

Erin Moore: 31:03

When people are close to me are hurting? What makes you inspired? sucking at stuff and learning new things? I guess that's the opposite side of the same coin.

Lisa Hopkins: 31:12

Yeah. Frustrated?

Erin Moore: 31:13

injustice.

Lisa Hopkins: 31:16

What makes you laugh?

Unknown: 31:17

Everything I laugh at? I find a joke and everything.

Lisa Hopkins: 31:20

What makes you angry?

Erin Moore: 31:21

Um, I don't know. You all know? Yeah, sometimes the macro stuff in the world stuff. Same thing like injustice. And I will say I don't get angry, angry a lot. But that makes me angry, and lack of leave when I feel like I don't have control over something that I really want to change. I feel like I can't change something that I really want to change.

Lisa Hopkins: 31:47

So that makes sense. I'm curious to know, do you ever do you ever get mad at yourself?

Erin Moore: 31:52

No, I'm not that much. No, no, not that much. Okay. I'm not really a regret person too much. Well, and you said you were deliberate, deliberate. So it sounds like you know, you you're very consciously making choices. And I usually feel like if I make the quote unquote, wrong choice. Well, that's what I was making a choice of what I had in the moment. So I'll make a different choice moving forward. But yeah, I mean, not to say I don't make bad choices. I do. But yeah, I don't really get like, like, I've been out of shape with myself about that type of stuff. Yeah, you make the best choice that you can at any given moment. Right. We all do the best we can. Yeah. And keep hoping. There's a couple things. Whoah girl No, but for the most part. Yeah.

Lisa Hopkins: 32:43

And finally, what makes you grateful?

Erin Moore: 32:46

Oh, god, my help. And my family without question. This is so cheesy, but it's true. Like, you know, like I joked about having a black car, but like, I went to class for the first time, like last Friday, and I like got to the bar and the piano started playing and I literally did not shed a tear Lee so that my hives balled up and I was just like, sometimes, like, Oh, God, the fact that I can move my body and the fact that I have something that just like, moves me in this way. Like, I feel so grateful for that. I really, really do. And so like that will fall into my health. And then having my parents still here and healthy. Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. What are the what are the top three things that have happened so far today? Um, I had my coffee. I was walking down the street, like because I had a dental appointment this morning. And I was like, I stopped into one of the stores and I wanted to buy some shorts, which I did not buy. But the fact that I like wanted to buy clothes and was excited was like, Oh my god, I was like, I'm coming back. It made me feel good. Because like, this whole time, I'm like, buy clothes for what? Where am I going? And I was like, ooh, I want to buy a bathing suit. I'm gonna I felt like, you know, alive. Like Not that I felt dead. But I felt like we're going to be having, I'm going to be out and about. So hopefully soon, so that felt good. And then a third thing, I got flowers. They're traitors. I get flowers every week, and I got my flowers today.

Lisa Hopkins: 34:18

I love that. Erin. I Oh my God, I so appreciate you taking the time to be in the moment with me today. I really, really do.

Erin Moore: 34:26

Thank you for having me. Thank you. Thank you. I so appreciate it. It was so good to catch up and reconnected. Thank you for being on my journey.

Lisa Hopkins: 34:36

Same. I have been speaking today with Erin Moore. Thanks for listening. Stay safe and healthy everyone and remember to live in the moment. In music, stop timing that beautiful moment where the band is suspended and rhythmic unison, supporting the soloist to express their individuality. In the moment, I encourage you to take that time and create your own rhythm. Until next time, I'm Lisa Hopkins. Thanks for listening